Please keep in mind though that these are personal accounts, I cannot personally authenticate them. -- Madeline Gonzalez


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Comment from Sylvia Caras:

 

"Stories that instruct, renew, and heal provide a vital

nourishment to the psyche that cannot be obtained in any

other way.  Stories reveal over and over again the precious

and peculiar knack that humans have for triumph over

travail.  They provide all the vital instructions we need to

live a useful, necessary, and unbounded life -- a life of

meaning, a life worth remembering."



Clarissa Pinkola Estes, Ph D



from the back of the cover of her _The Gift of Story_,

Ballantine 1993.





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> From Ardis Hanson

>

I have no problem with anyone using this with the identifying header.

Ardis



> I am the librarian at a state mental health research institute. The Institute

> has developed a number of programs for persons with mental illness and treats

> a diverse population of consumers/clients. The population ranges in age from

> children to the elderly with a corresponding number of diagnoses.

>

> The internet has made my information provision much easier and more

> enlightening. Not only am I able to provide first-hand treatment and

> psychopharmacological information to our faculty, but I am also able to

> enlighten staff and faculty from professional and consumer points of view on

> issues of treatment and interaction.

>

> It has enabled me on a professional level to understand the complexity of

> issues in the provision of mental health services, care, and treatment from

> both the providers' and consumers' POVs. It has increased the level of

> awareness of many of our faculty and staff to the amazing number of resources

> and people available.

>

> The fact there are groups of survivors out there is of tremendous importance

>to the clients and consumers who frequent the library. I print many of the

>client-oriented issues and "informationals" and send them to the clinical

units >for the clients and the staff to read and respond to.

>

> In addition to the in-house educational/informational efforts, it has been a

> wonderful resource for networking with other mental health professionals as

> well as the other library professionals who have little (they think) contact

> with consumers or survivors.  I have been able to direct librarians to lists

> > and net-resources that are of help to them and their constituencies.

>

> Finally, as a consumer myself, I find that I can help and be helped through

my interactions on the internet.

>

> Ardis Hanson

> Library Director

> Florida Mental Health Institute

> 13301 Bruce B. Downs Blvd.

> Tampa, FL 33612-3899

>

> hanson@hal.fmhi.usf.edu

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From Janet Schram



Internet, bulletin boards and even my computer in general have all

helped greatly in my struggle with depression.



Bulletin Boards:



I have spent several years isolating from other people.  It

isn't that I'm afraid of people, I just have a very difficult

time getting out of my apartment because of mild agorophobia.

Since I started using local bulletin boards last summer

(1993), I've spent hundreds of hours at my computer chatting

with people, playing games and downloading files.  I've made a

lot of friends and have even met a few of them.  Having this

contact with other people has made a big difference.  I don't

feel so cut off from life anymore.





Internet:



Internet has enriched my life in many ways, the biggest being

on a discussion list called "Walkers In The Darkness".  This

list is like a support group for people who suffer from

depression. I have learned a lot about medications.  Most

importantly though, I don't feel so alone in my depression.

When I post messages about how I'm feeling, I know that others

will know exactly what I'm talking about and how I'm feeling.

I always get replies full of support, and sometimes get some

very good suggestions.



On this list we are fortunate to have a psychiatrist that

participates.  He is extremely knowledgeable of medications

and the different types of mental illness.  He answers several

questions on a daily basis.  Because of some things he has

posted, I decided to stay on my present medication even though

I didn't feel that it was working and was having difficulty

with tolerating the side effects.  By "hanging in there" my

side effects decreased greatly and the medication now helps

enormously with my depression.



Computer:



My depression has disabled me to the point that I am not able

to go out and work at a job or even do volunteer work.  I

hadn't been productive in any way for a long time.  But

fortunately, through Internet and bulletin boards, my computer

provided me with not only entertainment and socializing, but

I've also learned a great deal about DOS, several software

programs, and computer equipment.  Since last summer (1993), I

have been able to focus on learning and using computer programs

for several hours a day.



Because of my interest and success with my computer, I have

decided to start a home business.  I will be doing word

processing, desktop publishing and medical transcription.  I'm

currently on Social Security Disability Income and am applying

for the PASS program which will help me put away money for the

equipment that I need to start my business.  I'll be ready to

start in about 16 months.  In the meantime, I'll be teaching

myself more programs and more about running a business.



I have subscribed to several Internet lists regarding

different aspects of business and am already learning a lot.

This also gives me a place to ask questions on business,

computers, software programs, etc.



Needless to say, the new "Super Highway of Information" has been very

beneficial to me education-wise and in my personal life.  I have

gained a lot of self esteem in having learned all that I have, using my

computer and modem.  After recently having tried going back to school

on two different occasions and failing, I started feeling very down

about myself.  This has given me a real boost in self confidence which

was much needed.



I look forward to furthering my knowledge with this technology and

hope that others can have a chance to benefit the way I have.



Janet Schram

Quincy, MA



Chicago@ace.com



 CJ> You have my permission to post my message with the header.

 

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Anonymous:



Two years ago, I was diagnosed as schizoaffective and began

meds that put 70 lbs on me and zombied me out.  Finally

having had "enough already" I stopped taking my meds.  I

lost 15 pounds in 5 weeks and was fine.  However, I had an

argument over the phone with my mother in which I actually

had feelings of anger and in response I RAISED my voice

which was very much out of the ordinary, or at least had

been out of the ordinary for the two years I was on

medication and zombied out.  Extremely upset, my family

rushed me to the ER and had me admitted temporarily to the

psych ward.  



I went back to work the next day and looked around on the

internet for somebody who could understand what I was going

through.  I needed acceptance for who/what I am and I was

lonely for someone to talk to that wouldn't edge slowly away

from me as I explained myself.  I found THISISCRAZY* and was

then pointed to PENDULUM*.  To my great relief I found out

that I was not the only "crazy" person who was out in the

world and functioning very well thank you.



That afternoon, my father called me into his office, (we

both work at the same university) and told me that if I did

not go in to the hospital voluntarily that they would have

me committed involuntary.  



I posted:



     If you don't hear from me for a while, it's because I

     am unable to reach the net.  Have a Doctor's

     appointment out of state today and I do not know if

     they will put me in the psych hospital or not, nor

     if I will have access to the net.



I asked advice from the internet and was told to go in

voluntarily and contact the hospital's Patient Advocate.  I

immediately requested a Patient's Rights packet to fill out

to approve my own care.  This too came quickly from

internet.



One of my replies was:



     The NET is growing!!  Find out how or if the hospital

     is connected to the Internet.  Take a pocket modem 2400

     baud and a small laptop.  Then all you need is a

     telephone (single line).  Have your admitting doctor

     ORDER access to electronic communication if at all

     possible.  I know it reduced my anxiety level by a

     factor of 10 to know that I could stay linked to the

     Networks.



     Any idea how long you will be confined??  You may want

     your family to have a private phone line installed as

     part of your recovery process.



Dan Fisher, MD, another ThisIsCrazy subscriber, offered to

write me a note to the mental hospital and treating

physician so that I would be given access to the internet

during my hospital stay.  His only caution was that I not

use it to the exclusion of face-to-face conversation which I

find very healthy advice.



The very expensive ($125 for 45 minutes) Shrink my family

sent me to said that I certainly did not need to be

hospitalized and rediagnosed me.  (My family was rather

perturbed when he wouldn't put me in.)



Had it not been for the internet, I, too, would have assumed

that I had best go back into zombieland and quit making so

much trouble for everybody thus tempting them to put me away

for long periods of some very boring and psychiatrically

nonproductive time.  Much less be away from my children,

husband, etc.



I feel so important and proud of myself for telling. 

Internet can keep people like me functioning in a society

that often unwittingly puts stumbling blocks in our way. 

Boy do I feel brave.





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Anonymous:



My wife and I found out from the pendulum list that tegretol affects

the efficacy of birth control pills. Her ob/gyn knew this, but didn't

know she was on tegretol. Her psychiatrist knew she was on tegretol but

didn't know it affected the birth control effectiveness. Because

someone on this list alerted us to the information, my wife saw her

ob/gyn who appropriately modified her birth control medicine. I

wouldn't say the list "saved our lives" in that respect, but it sure

kept things a lot simpler than they might have become.



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From Paul Raine:



Carina Woodham was adopted.  She spent lots of $$$ to find

her natural mother.  Later, when she tried to locate her father,

she used community nets, e-mail, and on-line services to

locate her father in a fraction of the time.  It saved

her both time and money.  





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Actually, the "success story" process IS in existence.  At a community

information network here in Pittsburgh -- NeighborLINE (Neighborhood

Library INformation Exchange).



It is somewhat difficult to track these "success stories" but it

has been done.  I agree that it is hard to quantify the benefits of the

networks we're all working to design and develop.  NeighborLINE has been

around since 1988, and has been rolling along strong ever since.



I suggest giving Patricia Callahan, Director at (412)321-8365.  She can

provide you with additional details concerning this "success story"

idea.



Regards,



CD Rogers, Professor

University of Pittsburgh

Urban and Regional Planning

Information Consultant to The infoWorks Partnership



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From Sylvia Caras



                       My Story





Contents



Introduction

My Personal View

Politics and the User Movement

The Value For Me in Communicating Electronically

     Electronic Mail     

     The Practical

     Process    

     Specific to madness

     Conclusion





                     Introduction



Stories of internet impact on persons' lives are being

collected as part of the move to develop community networks.



I asked others to write up and submit their own stories; I

worked on the history of ThisIsCrazy.  And I realized that I

ought also to tell my own story.



My story explains my attachment to electronic internet mail.



My story looks at why I am so satisfied in these

traditionally, male, young, sometimes cutthroat, retaliatory

surroundings, why I am at home here even though I am a

grandmother, inclusive and conciliatory.



And my story relates why electronic networking is especially

important to me as a person with a psychiatric diagnosis, a

person with a silenced voice, a mad woman.



                   My Personal View



Fundamental to owning a psychiatric diagnosis is the

experience of exclusion.  On the internet, I do not have to

wear my anti-exclusion armor.  The essential me may

subscribe, unsubscribe, post; to disclose, I have to overtly

reveal most of my categories and classes.



On the internet, I am stretched; I am learning a new set of

nuances, a new way to see what another means, a new way to

be available and responsive.  I receive enough feedback-

that-I-believe to demonstrate to me that I am good at what I

am doing.  The corroboration sustains and energizes me.



            Politics and the User Movement



In recent years, the user movement has had no dependable

national information source, no newsletter, no organization,

no resource directory, no way to grow as a movement, and,

what exasperated me the most, no opportunity for newcomers. 

Command and connections remained with the networked old

timers.



I had something to say, I had an experience and a point of

view.  I wanted in.



The lack of network was explained away by "no money," "no

funding," "we are all volunteers."



I knew how to make a beginning with not too much money.



And I know how to leverage the internet costs.



My own goal was that information and knowledge should be

shared;  I wanted a tool so that everyone should have access

to everything.  Then each could do as they wanted.



As a movement, we have been reactive to the models we knew,

authoritarian and paternalistic.  We became anarchic or

compliant.  The internet is a milieu almost without models

and that forces empowerment without much personal or

systemic resistance.  The internet is involvement.  And

involvement on a human, anecdotal scale with unsung people

and modest events creates a demonstrable critical mass of

caring and community.  



   The Value For Me in Communicating Electronically

                    Electronic Mail     



                     The Practical



Effect       Compelling effective use of my self, my time.

Universe     Reaches an expanded population, a population

             large enough to meet interests too

             specialized for face-to-face communities.

Content      Electronic contacts have more clarity, are

             less fuzzy, are shorter.

Time         Less overall time than voice, snail mail, or

fax

Speed        Faster potential turnaround than for snail

             mail or fax.

Turnaround   Turnaround for voice mail depends on whether

             desired person was reached, or human or

             recording device took a message.

Cost         Reduces long distance charges for voice

             calls.

             Reduces snail mail postage costs.

             Reduces cost of supplies -- envelopes, paper,

             postcards, labels, staples, duplicating, and

             laser cartridges.



                        Process    



Mental       A mostly mental, very sedentary activity.

Undemanding  Requires less of me; can use even when I am

             low, tired, or otherwise ill at ease with

             myself.

Informal     Has the informality of speech and the focus

             of writing.

Accurate     Quoting creates feedback and accuracy of

             understanding.

Control      I control the pace of my participation; I may

             reply spontaneously or thoughtfully. 

Balance      My concision and another's verboseness stay

             in balance better than in an oral dialogue. 

             I don't feel overwhelmed, or as if I have

             less of a chance.

Clarity      I have to deal with fewer levels of

             communication.  The hidden agendas and non-

             verbals of verbal exchange, which also

             require attention, are reduced, the pauses

             and intonations.  The stroking and grooming

             of social exchange is reduced.  Impact of

             non-verbals, social station, work rank, ...

             is reduced.  Also eliminated are the status

             cues of stationery and the more formal

             language (sometimes generated by levels of

             preview and review of print).

Sensory ease Sensory input is reduced; no auditory, no new

             kinesthetic; no visual except words.  Since I

             am extremely aware and often experience

             sensory overload, this reduction is very

             functional, calming.  Like paper (as compared

             to oral), the level of input is reduced.  

Challenge    My thinking is challenged more than in oral

             communication.

Focus        More focus, less foreplay.  Courtesy is

             present and abbreviated.  Dialogue is more

             content oriented; I am a thinker and the

             content is why I am communicating.

Rhythm       I may participate often without being greedy;

             I may observe without feeling uncooperative.

Choice       I may or may not read another's post; no one

             has to read my posts.

Rules        I may respond without invitation and without

             regard to "appropriateness" of my

             relationship to the author, without deference

             or humility, merely with content.

             The only place where I've been attacked is

             when I've posted from the user point of view

             about disability and coercion issues to one

             of the health care reform lists (HEALTHRE),

             and to the psychiatry list.  On the

             psychiatry list there was as well

             appreciation and thanks.

Level fields The real action is not behind the

             scenes; the real action is fully public.

Valuing      I am measured by the content and style of my

             post, not my age, presence, education, bond

             weight of my stationery, pearls, ...  .

             I feel my good mind is valued; I feel I am

             valued.

Multiplicity I am able to respond from curiosity,

             from pragmatism, from philosophy -- to

             one place, with one post.

             I like labeling myself a cyberjock.

Heard        Someone listens; usually someone replies; I

             am heard.

             When I'm heard, I feel appreciated; I feel

             worthy; I feel understood; I feel respected;

             I feel affirmed.

Manageable   Most of the e mail and internet obstacles are

             obstacles of software; that's easier for me

             to challenge and adjust to than obstacles of

             personality.

Democratic   Instantaneous transmission of same to many;

             transforms the information pyramid into a

             line.

Tailored     Customized.

             Action is in real time, is evolving, protean.

Reduced risk There's no risk to access; there's no risk to

             lurk.

             There's minimal risk to post.  

             And I am involved in a safe way; I can

             marshall 200 People Who in 200 seconds if

             coercion is threatened.  

             (People Who is short for people who

             experience mood swings, fear, voices and

             visions.  People Who was also the name of the

             hand managed list that preceded ThisIsCrazy. 

             People Who existed from January 27 to April

             16 1994.  The first message went to 17

             subscribers, the last to 56.  On 062894,

             ThisIsCrazy had 82 subscribers from 7

             countries and was sending about 45 messages

             per week.) 



Constancy    The resource, my community is continually

             available.

Efficacy     I'm good at this.

Concision    I know how to write a one screen message

             (maybe 125 words).

Congruence   I know how to hear what another is writing,

             and to post responsively.

State        I'm present, focussed, not distracted (or I'm

             in some other space).  I'm less sealed off,

             more involved not in a virtuality, but in,

             for me, an expanded reality.  There is an

             intensity and an intimacy (Is there an analog

             to hallucination, psychosis, a getting close

             to this edge?  It takes me a while to "come

             back;" where have I been?)





                  Specific to Madness



Safety net   I can tailor access to the best hours for me. 

             I can find support when I need it, even early

             morning hours, without triggering crisis

             responses, and without feeling judged for my

             rhythms.  The internet is continually

             available, 24 hours, 7 days, even Christmas

             and Thanksgiving and Super Bowl Sunday.  



             I can depend on access and input.  This risk

             of not being able to access is only the risk

             of my own computer going down, my provider

             going down, there being no electricity, or

             worst of all, there being no messages in my

             groups.  Thus, I am minimally exposed, have

             minimum vulnerability, need to put less

             attention towards maintain defensible

             personal boundaries.



Support      Broadens knowledge base of People Who about

             their label and its connection to other

             labels -- allergies, learning disabilities,

             chemical sensitivities, ...



Sociability  Electronic involvement has led me to more

             face-to-face involvement rather than less,

             the isolation which concerned me.  I feel my

             assurance enhanced by my dependable

             accessible community.



Lobbying     Timely, effective, inexpensive



Direction    Depression cast me away from the middle class

             matron script that I'd learned when very

             young.  I drifted uncharted.



                      Conclusion



Commonality  E mail reduces my negative exceptionality. 

             I find commonality and because of support, I

             reduce the burden of uniqueness.  Space is

             created for my positive exceptionality. 

             Through e mail, I speak in a firm clear

             voice.





SylviaC@netcom.com; owner ThisIsCrazy-L@netcom.com

June 29, 1994





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